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I'll volunteer for the job if no one else wants it. But please do make a nomination or two here so we can select a replacement for the absentee mod.
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Re: New moderator
Fri, November 6, 2009 - 6:20 AMYes, this tribe clearly needs a moderator. Unfortunate, but true. -
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Re: New moderator
Wed, November 11, 2009 - 9:28 AMAny other nominations? Votes? -
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Re: New moderator
Thu, November 12, 2009 - 6:33 PMI nominate "No Moderator."
Let each member moderate himself. -
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Re: New moderator
Fri, November 13, 2009 - 8:04 AMThat strategy does not work for tribe. We all hope that a hands-off posture is the best thing to do, but that only leaves room for assholes to detract from the sense of community that tribe needs to maintain in order to survive. Way too many people leave the forum because of trolls. If you want tribe to survive, and if you want THIS tribe to survive, you'll support the effort to keep the assholes at bay. -
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Re: New moderator
Fri, November 13, 2009 - 8:53 AMSounds good...so go get it, Mickey!
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Re: New moderator
Fri, November 13, 2009 - 6:52 PM>> If you want tribe to survive, and if you want THIS tribe to survive, you'll support the effort to keep the assholes at bay. <<
your definition of asshole of course. tinged by your personal preferences and ideology. -
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Re: New moderator
Sat, November 14, 2009 - 6:06 AM>>your definition of asshole of course. tinged by your personal preferences and ideology.<<
Very true. However, I think most would agree that if someone pops in with the sole purpose of saying how much libertarians suck or libertarian philosophy is a dead-end (not that such things happen often), and by doing so runs others off who would otherwise engage in productive dialogue, then it not out of line for a moderator to ban that individual.
Afterall, THIS tribe is called "libertarianism" with the description: "We believe in minimalist government, personal responsibility, and the power of the free market". Presumably, then, its a tribe FOR libertarians to discuss things, not a tribe designed to discuss the merits, or lack thereof, of libertarianism.
That's my 2 cents, anyway.
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Re: New moderator
Sat, November 14, 2009 - 9:47 AM< your definition of asshole of course. tinged by your personal preferences and ideology. >
My preferences involve driving more traffic (and I think everyone here wants this, if you want tribe.net to survive). Getting more people to contribute to an active discussion that is free trolls, spam, flaming, and general assholery, is one sure thing that must happen in order to keep tribe alive. -
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Re: New moderator
Sat, November 14, 2009 - 10:52 AM
>> is one sure thing that must happen in order to keep tribe alive. <<
one sure thing that made tribe fun was the diversity offered by different moderators and different points of view. my experience (and I'm sure it's min only) is that moderators like you take over several tribes, making each a carbon copy of the other. superficially, you're cracking down on the overt assholes that truly are ruining it for everyone. go a little deeper and it's clear that there is a glaring double standard.
I guess my two cents would be that this tribe probably does need a moderator. but it needs a different moderator. preferably not a franchise moderator that is convinced of his own righteousness (i.e. not you). -
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Re: New moderator
Sat, November 14, 2009 - 11:17 AM>>(i.e. not you)<<
Agreed. The Libertarianism tribe does not need a "franchise moderator" who describes himself on his profile by saying, "I will not even call myself a Libertarian."
Find another tribe where you can peddle your wares, Mickey.
As for what this tribe does need: "Hands off" works just fine for true libertarians -- which there are not many of, here on tribe. The longest and liveliest thread on this tribe recently was the one started and prolonged by an anti-libertarian provocateur. I wouldn't want him censored or banned -- Bring it on! Libertarians need to learn how to engage the opposition effectively, or libertarian ideas don't stand a chance. -
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Re: New moderator
Sat, November 14, 2009 - 12:17 PMFor the record, I'm not truly an atheist, but the folks in that tribe (and it's way more active than this one) seem okay with their moderator. And I am more of a Libertarian than anything else. But I say what I say because I think labels do more to defeat us than define us. (Which was the point of that piece.)
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Re: New moderator
Sat, November 14, 2009 - 12:15 PMWhat's a "franchise moderator?" What tribes of mine have you been an active participant in at all? None. What double standard do you see? There is not one. But it would be a waste of time for me to try to prove myself to you. Why you're afraid of me, I have no idea.
As I said before, I'll do it if no one else. I'm not keenly interested in the job, though I am keenly interested in seeing the assholes go away. Make a constructive nomination if you will. -
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Re: New moderator
Sat, November 14, 2009 - 12:33 PM>> What's a "franchise moderator?" <<
someone that moderates more than one tribe within a particular field of interest. and someone that turns each new tribe he moderates into a carbon copy of the rest.
>> What tribes of mine have you been an active participant in at all? <<
I participated and left your "intelligent political discussion" tribe.
>> Why you're afraid of me, I have no idea. <<
get over yourself Mickey. you're a boor with delusions of fairness. the tribes you moderate are boring. they're carbon copies of every other boring political tribe, with the same members making the same tired posts. and that's the "problem" with tribe. -
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Re: New moderator
Sat, November 14, 2009 - 12:39 PM
I nominate David McLean. -
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Re: New moderator
Sat, November 14, 2009 - 2:54 PMI know I don't post much in this tribe but I do look forward to reading it every time I'm on Tribe but I'd be willing to do the moderation here.
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Re: New moderator
Sat, November 14, 2009 - 4:29 PMI appreciate your confidence in me, Junta, but I'm not sure I'm qualified for the job and not sure I'd be able to do a proper job of it, given the mildly insane circus that is my life. -
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Re: New moderator
Sat, November 14, 2009 - 5:29 PM>> but I'm not sure I'm qualified for the job and not sure I'd be able to do a proper job of it <<
suggesting you're overqualified for the position. this tribe doesn't need a moderator from the left (Mickey). nor does it need one from the right (me). and tribe certainly doesn't need more "intelligent political discussion" clones. as far as the needs for this tribe, it needs someone like you or Kurt.
to address your concerns. in a low volume high quality tribe like this you don't have to do all that much. discourage and boot assholes now and then. if there is something you find interesting, post it. the lice ruining it for everyone else are relatively easy to identify and banish. people that enjoy a good discussion will naturally follow your lead. use your intelligence and point of view as a rudder.
but if you don't want it, I'll nominate Kurt. -
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Re: New moderator
Mon, November 16, 2009 - 11:19 AMI'd do it, but I'm not sure how good I'd be as a Mod.
Thanks for the vote of confidence. -
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Re: New moderator
Mon, November 16, 2009 - 7:24 PM>> Thanks for the vote of confidence. <<
no problem mate. pretty simple. a Libertarian tribe should have a Libertarian moderator. -
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Re: New moderator
Wed, November 18, 2009 - 6:01 AMSoooo....Mickey, Kurt, or Randall? -
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Re: New moderator
Wed, November 18, 2009 - 7:54 AM
Kurt.
If this group is adamant about having a moderator -- like the Israelites who demanded to have a king -- let it be a libertarian who doesn't "know how good" he would be. At least he doesn't have an agenda.
This might be an instructive lesson on the hazards of putting anyone in a position of authority. -
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Re: New moderator
Wed, November 18, 2009 - 12:19 PMI'll support Kurt, too.
But I have no agenda. -
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Re: New moderator
Thu, November 19, 2009 - 6:46 AMHey Kurt: TAG, YOU'RE IT!!!
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